One of the key identity questions for a community is “How big are you?” While this answer is often in flux for some communities, one critical factor in determining size is the number of available beds/bed rooms.
This counts as one bed
Twin Oaks is a big place, we have something like 105 bedrooms in member residences (we have another 10 beds in the 6 bedroom visitor building called Aurora which is not used for member housing). We have 9 residences in 7 dormitory like buildings (private bedrooms, share living, bath and kitchens).14 of these rooms are currently being used by our kids, leaving 91 member bedrooms. In the past we have a population limit of between 90 and 92 adult members. We shorten the term ” this our “population capacity” or “pop cap” for short. This year it might be different, this year it might be lower. [Update May 12, 2024 – The planners have set the slack rooms to two and they Pop Cap will be 88]
In the pit of covid, our population dropped to 61 (having been at 86 in February 2020) and this week we are at 84, but we can see a wave of new members coming. The current visitor group had 4 people applying for membership, 3 of whom are very popular ex-members/long term guests and one is one of their partners. We have a lovely pair of new members who we met at the Communities Conference. We also have several members currently on personal leave (what we call PAL) who are planning on returning. There is always someone planning on leaving – but word on the path is the next known member departing is not until winter.
And we have accepted our first two non-member associates. This is a special status which some of us have wanted for decades which was finally approved in late 2023, designed for people who have outside commitments or lifestyles which make it impossible for them to be here full time. The current requirements to be an associate is that you need to be here between 2 and 10 months of the year. You are not a member (which means you are off the property code, which means you can have a personal car – but can’t drive the community fleet cars). And non-members are not part of self selection process, so you don’t input on visitors who are applying for membership.
It is actually harder to become an associate than it is to become a member. You need to make a threshold 40% of the membership voting ‘accept’. While this may seem low, especially to people in smaller communities, it is important to remember that perhaps 30% of Twin Oaks members either very rarely or never involve themselves in membership decisions by not giving input to the membership team. In their defense, it is quite some amount of homework to know who all the current visitors or new members are and individual input very rarely matters if it is positive. The membership process seeks red flags and in absence of them, we are often willing to take a chance on someone trying membership.
Associates are not guaranteed a room, but can stay in one if it is available. This might lead to the creation of “slack rooms ” in the planners’ pop cap equation. And is another indication that we are heading towards a shortage of rooms.
Waiting lists shift time
If we reach pop cap, we will re-institute a waiting list, which has a number of complex dynamics, including frustratingly losing some of the potential members we are most excited about have. This situation is what led to the development of Shal’s perfect number of members. This is just one or two below pop cap, so there is space for members to shift rooms and for us to accept someone quickly if that happens to be the flavor they come in. And if current forecasts are correct we will breeze past Shal’s comfy spot into a room crunch.
AI response to “community joys of togetherness and hassles of sharing”
If you are excited about possibly joining Twin Oaks you should read this section of the official Twin Oaks website. If you want to read more propaganda about how wonderful it is check this out. If you are more curious about the down sides of this commune, i’ve got you covered also.
Twin Oaks Fire Update #1:
March 31, 2024 – With some updates from April 12 posting. Background on the fire Damage Report: Survived/Safe:
(This part of The Flip Project’s “States in Consideration” blog series. Click here to see the rest.) One of the trickiest parts of the Flip Project is deciding where to take our merry band of data analysts, street performers, political activists and off the beaten path (laundromats, bus stops…) canvassers. We want to craft the biggest electoral impact we can make, and support as many voters as we can, but there are numerous factors involved. We want to go places that have close elections at many levels which we have a chance at influencing. Ideally this would be where there is a competitive US Senate race. A place where we know people who might host us, to cut costs and to ramp up training for our out-of-state volunteers. We look for places that have important referendums, especially where we think these might increase turnout at the polls. And last, but certainly not least, we look for states that might be close presidential battleground states. These are most of the states we are considering On April Fools Day, the Florida State Supreme Court made our decision much easier, and at the same time much harder (we wish we could be in three places at once, but sadly that is not possible). They decided that Florida will have a ban on abortion at 6 weeks, before most people even know they are pregnant. This ruling, while not the most restrictive abortion ban in the nation, still guarantees tragedy and trauma for pregnant people and families in the state- as a similar ban in Texas has demonstrated. Florida’s laws don’t only impact Florida residents, it was also one of the few southern states where abortion was accessible at all. It is 1000 miles from New Orleans to the nearest abortion service provider, if FL maintains its ban. (For example, in Missouri abortion is completely banned with very limited exceptions. Missouri requires an “affirmative defense,” meaning a physician has to prove in court that an abortion met the criteria for a legal exception.) However, they also decided to approve of the wording of, and thereby permit to appear on the ballot, a proposed amendment by referendum to the state constitution. Florida’s Amendment 4, Amendment to Limit Government Interference with Abortion, says that “no law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider”- if it can win 60% of the vote. The most recent state polling shows it garnering 62% of the electorate’s support [link]. But this is before anti-choice groups have invested millions in the state to block reproductive rights. Florida Senator (and former Florida Governor) Rick Scott, who is up for re-election this year, favors the 6 week abortion ban. He co-sponsored legislation in the US Senate to require unnecessary ultrasounds, and a separate bill in 2021 which would imprison doctors who provide some types of abortion care. Only a year later, in his role as the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Scott released an abortion talking points memo for Republicans designed based on polling and focus groups (not policy or legality) that read in part, “Republicans DO NOT want to throw doctors and women in jail. Mothers should be held harmless under the law.” It is 1000 miles from New Orleans to the nearest abortion service provider, if FL maintains its ban The last Democratic US Senator in Florida was Bill Nelson, who held the post from 2001 to 2019- he lost his seat to Scott in 2018. In the years since, the state has shifted more towards the Republican party, authoritarianism, and blatantly discriminatory laws such as the “don’t say gay” bill. Both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis call Florida their home. But Scott is a vulnerable candidate. In his three last general elections he has never won by more than 1.2% (though he did manage to win his seat during the 2018 blue wave midterm election). Voters will be reminded that Scott wanted to cut Medicare and Medicaid. They will be reminded that Scott was CEO of Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), which was forced to pay over $2 billion in civil penalties for systematically overcharging Medicare, which in 2002 was the largest fraud settlement in history. The other popular proposed constitutional amendment on Florida’s November ballot is the decriminalization of marijuana. The 2016 medical marijuana constitutional amendment passed with 71.32% in favor and 28.68% opposed, and legalized medical marijuana. Scott as Florida governor did everything he could to block implementation, including a years long court battle attempting to ban smokable forms of medical marijuana. It’s only appropriate that he will share November’s ballot with another amendment- the Adult Personal Use of Marijuana Amendment which “allows adults 21 years or older to possess, purchase, or use marijuana products and marijuana accessories for non-medical personal consumption.” This amendment is polling at 67% (LINK). Who is challenging Scott? Debbie Mucarsel-Powell is the current favorite in the democratic primary (while there is little polling, she is way ahead in endorsements). She was the US House rep for Florida’s 26th congressional district from 2019-2021, making her one of the more experienced candidates in the democratic primary. After leaving office, Mucarsel-Powell worked for Giffords, a gun-control advocacy and research group co-founded by former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. She is pressing Scott on his abortion stance, and is particularly well positioned to do so as the only woman running in the Democratic primary (thus far). Even with almost no statewide name recognition, Mucarsel-Powell is currently polling 3 points down from Scott (within the poll’s 3.5% margin of error). We recognize that a lot can happen between now and the August 20th Democratic primary, and that the filing deadline is still 3 weeks away (April 26, 2024). After the shock of Larry Hogan entering the MD senate race only hours before the filing deadline, we’re not taking anything for granted right now. Flip is still watching and calculating, but currently Florida just moved to the top of the list as places where our efforts might just make the difference. Reach out if you have specific interest in Florida politics, could help the Flip Project on the ground in Florida, or want to tell us why Florida is the wrong choice and what the right one would be. At this time the Flip project is actively seeking allies in the Tampa to Orlando region, especially folks who can provide low cost or free housing from the beginning of August thru election day in November. We will likely have a team of at least a dozen and potentially quite a few more.
Shortly after the equinox ritual called the element of air, wind blew hard enough to send plastic chairs flying around us. When we called water, clouds blocked the sun and it felt for a moment like we might actually get rain. And less than 15 minutes after we called the element of fire into the circle, brown clouds from the neighbors land started billowing overheard in the courtyard.
This is what the fire looked like from the Twin Oaks grave yard I broke from the ritual to check in with the office person. Kathryn had already dispatched Sabrina to the graveyard to see what she could see. When i got there half an hour later i took the above picture and was relieved to see the first so far form our property line. My relief was misinformed. The picture above is about where the fire started but did not give any real indication of how far the fire had spread at that moment. Within half an hour of this first sighting the local Louisa Fire Department was here in force. They blocked traffic on W. Old Mountain Road. They told us to go across Vigor Road (which the Twin Oaks driveways are on) and wait for the all clear. And so almost everyone stopped doing what they we and went across the street. The preparation of dinner was interrupted, so Keenan and Kelpie went and got a bunch of pizzas for everyone. Things seemed to be improving and the fire department let us come back and eat our pizzas in the courtyard. But things were not getting better. Before 7 PM, we were being told we needed to evacuate the entire Twin Oaks campus. A school bus was brought in and took people to Acorn and the Louisa middle school, where they waited out the fire fighting. Emerald City is gone The fire spread from the neighboring land and took out the kilns, the warehouse and all the woodworking spaces (called ECW). It also spread to the conference site and destroyed the pavilion, the kitchen and all of the material storage up there. Miraculously, Oz (which is the spray varnish building that had burned some years back and had been replaced by a steel and concreate building) survived the blaze. After some hours, after surveying briefly the damage i spotted a number of small fires in the woods between Tupelo and EC. I spent a couple of hours extinguishing these, while the fire fighters were working on bigger blazes. Perhaps most scary was their work on a fire which was quite near Tupelo, one of our larger residences. After the fire fighters had largely controlled the fire, there were still many fires in the trees. The problem was several trees were still on fire higher up than could be reached and were dropping burning branches to the ground. But fortunately the cool night air was reducing the spread of the fire. In all this tragedy there is some good news. No one was hurt, none of the various pets, many of which could not be found at the time of the evacuation, have been reported missing. No residences were harmed (though Tupelo had a close call). At about midnight a young fire fighter came across me doing my small fire extinguishing thing and encouraged me to go home, saying these small fires in this cold night air were unlikely to spread and that the fire fighters would be monitoring the woods for any spread and would be there until the whole situation was under control. Exhausted and covered with ash i returned to the courtyard where some of our members returned, while many stayed overnight at other locations in town. You can contribute to the general Twin Oaks Community Fire Relief Fund, the Twin Oaks Conference Site Fire Relief Fund, or both. You can contribute to the general Twin Oaks Community Fire Relief Fund via Stripe. This link has the lowest fees, and contributions will focus primarily on general repairs and restoration. You can contribute using a debit card, credit card, Apple Pay, Cash App, Klarna or a bank account. Contributions via this link are not tax deductible. Donate to the Twin Oaks Recovery Fund here, or by scanning the QR code. If you need tax-deductible for you donation we will work via the Foundation for Intentional Community’s fiscal sponsorship. Contact us for more inform about tax deductible donations. Please email [email protected] Thank you friends. I will likely update in a future blog post and updates will be added to the FB group as well, https://www.facebook.com/groups/TwinOaksFriends. Here is an update on the fire from a week or so after this postNotice how life passes. And see how we get absorbed by life’s drama. The drama that for some represents everything. And for others, nothing. As if, it’s unreal. Drama is an experience. It is cultural by nature. It is what we live by. Drama can also, simultaneously, be beautiful as well as ugly. It is […]
Interesting graph on growth inequality, for US :
http://stateofworkingamerica.org/who-gains/#/?start=1985&end=2008 ( with sliding scales ) Between 1985 and 2008, the richest 10 percent got 95 percent of the growth ; the bottom 90 percent shared 5 percent of that growth also see :
97% owned present serious research and verifiable evidence on our economic and financial system. This is the first documentary to tackle this issue from a UK-perspective and explains the inner workings of Central Banks and the Money creation process.
When money drives almost all activity on the planet, it’s essential that we understand it. Yet simple questions often get overlooked, questions like; where does money come from? Who creates it? Who decides how it gets used? And what does this mean for the millions of ordinary people who suffer when the monetary, and financial system, breaks down?
Produced by Queuepolitely and featuring Ben Dyson of Positive Money, Josh Ryan-Collins of The New Economics Foundation, Ann Pettifor, the “HBOS Whistleblower” Paul Moore, Simon Dixon of Bank to the Future and Nick Dearden from the Jubliee Debt Campaign.
Political philosopher John Gray, commented, “We’re not moving to a world in which crises will never happen or will happen less and less. We are in a world in which they happen several times during a given human lifetime and I think that will continue to be the case”
If you have decided that crisis as a result of the monetary system is not an event you want to keep revisiting in your life-time then this documentary will equip you with the knowledge you need, what you do with it is up to you.
I feel that the context and process described by some of the people interviewed in this documentary seems to correspond somewhat to an intentional approach I d like to support with a shared narrative process aided by a linked-data interface :
“Political Parties give the opportunity to people not to think by themselves”
“Political Parties and politicians maintain their own interests”
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/iceland-after-the-meltdown-what-we-can-learn-from-their-realdemocracy-movement/2012/07/24 “In Iceland, the first European country to wake up to an economic crash, people became aware that they could and should intervene in society and started demanding more democratic participation. The payment of bank debts by citizens went to referendum. The government was forced to create a Council to write a new constitution: a citizens’ group – without politicians, lawyers or university professors – who opened the discussion process to everybody and managed to approve by consensus a draft proposal.”
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson
Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Subject: Re:
To: tim.r
Hi Tim,
I feel enthusiastic when reading your message.
I am certainly interested in the potential to build on your experience,
including what concerns legal frameworks.
I wish to inform some friends, including in cc Leander ( who is currently in Leipzig, and co-organizes the Fairventure event ) ,
and in bcc Anthony.
Leipzig sounds like a good opportunity to meet up and discuss such frameworks more in detail.
Regarding the legal framework, as a first step for me is the housing aspect,
I was considering the “Mietshauser syndikat” approach ( http://www.syndikat.org/ ) ,
which indeed combines all three : Verein, Genossenschaft , and Gmbh.
( yet there are more models I will consider , possibly trying out several models for different buildings : http://www.stiftung-trias.de/infomaterial.html )
Regarding the development of post-industrial manufacturing, this is a chapter in which people involved in the german chapter of open source ecology are more engaged in
http://osede.org/
http://oseeurope.org/2012/01/creating-ose-community-in-germany/
http://opensourceecology.org/wiki
I try to see if there is way in joining potentials regarding a wider span of infrastructure investment.
Rewig sounds like an interesting model to do so.
For the moment, I have been mostly into researching opportunities in Leipzig,
and now try to focus on buying a first building.
I do not have money of my own, so I depend on investors.
I prefer a model with no centralized ownership.
For the moment, I have a list of friends interested in putting forward a few thousand euros to buy their flat. If a partnership can be made with Mietshauser syndikat, by setting up our own legal framework first, 3/4 of the money can come via credit guaranteed by Mietshausersyndikat, which reduces the requirement for cash, per flat, to 2500 euros.
I also found an investor willing to make available 100 000 euros to buy an entire building in Leipzig, at the condition that he remains the sole investor,
while enabling us to live there without payment of rent for a few years.
I imagine this as a first step to converge friends to live and Leipzig and further the broader project.
I am thinking about a building which is already in a good livable condition, such as this one
http://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/64017966?navigationbarurl=/Suche/S-14/Haus-Kauf/Sachsen/Leipzig/-/-/300,00-
Speak to you soon / see you soon,
Dante
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Tim R wrote:
Dear Dante,
great to hear from you, I hope things are going well for you!
Also great to hear about the ecological ideas which you and your friends are trying to advance.
One of the many facets of the concept of regional economic communities is to provide a legal and communal framework for just such ideas!
My experience is that while it is “fairly easy” to have such ideas, it’s not so easy to implement them – so much to do with law and finances, contracts and obligations. The ReWiG München for example is a cooperative based on the above linked concept – and we’re currently about one year behind where we originally wanted to be, despite now having about 100 members, about 20 of which are more or less really active. But the good news is, we’re glad to support other initiatives with the know-how and official papers which we have accumulated on the way, so that others can have things go easier and quicker.
Please note that the concept is intended to be very flexible and all neccessary modifications for a local situation are welcome. If the local solution is still (within a large tolerance) close enough to the concept to be called a ReWiG, then the ReWiG München, which has patented the word ReWiG, will gladly concent to people using it. This in turn will qualify the initiative to participate in the “Rat der ReWiGs” Verband, where continuing exchange of experience and mutual support will be available.
As an example of flexibilty I mention the second ReWiG: ReWiG Schlehdorf eG. They are not yet planning to invest in local businesses nor to start a local currency – rather they are taking over an existing ecological farm which also offers nature experience for young people. But they have their hearts in the right place and they have founded a cooperative, and we’re glad to support them and grant the right to the name ReWiG. In a similar way I could well imagine a ReWiG in Leipzig initially dedicated to getting the projects you’re looking at instantiated, and at the same time being part of a movement could help (a) getting started, and (b) to expand horizons and take up further possible aspects of a ReWiG in due time (e.g. an own local currency and marketplace, or cooperation with local authorities).
Verein: I’d be a little bit careful if Verein is really the right vehicle. In Germany a Verein is traditionally a group a people furthering a pastime, sport or charity of some sort, or preserving local tradition and such things. Many of them are tax-exempt due to meeting the neccessary criteria for exemption. Normally a Verein is not associated with doing business. There IS however a type of legal body similar in quite a few ways to a Verein but intended for doing business, and that’s the Cooperative (Genossenschaft). There are constructs whereby a Verein is used as a tax-exempt body to aid donations, and uses a Plc (GmbH) or such as its business-arm (which can then make a profit), or others involving a foundation (for endowments), but personally I find these somewhat cumbersome – as though people are effectively trying to get around legal restrictions.
Leipzig: We’ll be at the fairventure Congress in Leipzig on 7. – 8. June this year, so that would be an opportunity to meet and discuss face to face.
Am 01.04.2012 14:01, schrieb Dante-Gabryell Monson:
parallel note ( sorry, in english – feel free to reply in german ) :
I wish to express my personal interest in the VAWT development process.
( but also in potentially parallel research, such as http://sharewiki.org/en/Tensegrity , including for VAWT structures )
Personally, I look forward to contribute, once I manage to set myself up in Berlin or Leipzig. ( am currently in Brussels )
A few , potentially converging points :
Regarding The construction place, and the legal platform , I may see some convergences I hope to be able to exploit together :
1)
I am attempting to further the Leipzig Housing Cooperative project , and potentially also abandoned factory space for post-industrial manufacturing ?
http://sharewiki.org/en/Leipzig_project
2)
I wish to set up a legal platform ( a “Verein” ) in Germany.
Who is willing to set up a Verein together in Germany ?
Did anyone set one up yet ?
Another option I consider, is the set up of a International Verein, in Belgium :
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AISBL
internationale VoG (Vereinigung ohne Gewinnerzielungsabsicht)
as to facilitate the convergence of money invested in such kind of projects.
( starting with the purchase of a first building in Leipzig )
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I also wish to investigate the interest or feasibility of setting up a not for profit investment scheme, with as outcome local infrastructure for resilient local economics.
One inspiration , midst others, may be to adapt/tweak/collaborate with the following model
http://regionale-wirtschaftsgemeinschaft.info/infothek/initiativen/ ? ( I bcc Tim )
Cordially,
Dante
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson
Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM
Subject: Leipzig ? Social Design – “critical networks” : requirements and development practices ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_design#Strategic_thinking
As Amartya Sen writes, poverty is seen as deprivation of capabilities. By focussing on capabilities, rather than e.g. income, Amartya Sen suggests that development within various social aspects of life can contribute to general development.
extrait – de Dante :
” In addition to development practices,
I wish to outline all of these requirement into modules,
that help define the costs on a context based approach for
“business plans”, packaged and sold as “use value insurance” … ”
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From: Dante-Gabryell Monson
Date: Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Subject: “critical networks” : requirements and development practices ?
To:
Hi Michel, Hi p2pf’ers
did you come across materials laying out a synthesis of very specific characteristics and requirements
around what I am tempted to call “critical networks” ?
Perhaps there is some other name for this ?
I think of “critical network” as distinctive from, yet potentially including , the concept of “critical mass”.
In the way I envision it,
“Critical Network” where the required “critical” properties for an operational or emergent networked system may not merely be a mass of users,
but specific properties ( such as measurable forms of reciprocity, physical location, resources, knowledge and skills, or other variables ) related to the constituents and context for specific intentional “process economies” to be enabled.
Including the mode of access to resources required for specific kinds of emergence.
I want to understand ( and have access to examples of ) various characteristics required to facilitate and multiply “local process economies” for viable and convivial living systems
http://p2pfoundation.net/Process_Economy
as to document step by step strategy proposals,
not merely in a “enclosed” / monetized approach,
but rather within a larger wealth acknowledgment system
http://p2pfoundation.net/Wealth_Acknowledgment_Systems
towards communal sharing in intentional economic networks.
I put an emphasis on understanding “starting points” for ( at first small scale )
“critical networks”.
I can find inspiration in homebrew revolutions ( and examples such as e-farm , open manufacturing, … ),
but also recommendations related to the set up of “transition towns”
( http://www.transitionnetwork.org/resources/transition-primer )
I can also find inspiration in ( reading excerpts online )
of books such as
http://www.integralcity.com/
and the p2p urbanism and p2pf blog , wiki and lists.
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What I wish, is to define requirements more accurately,
offering post-industrial alternatives to sometimes publicly supported “gentrification urban development models” ( which I observe here in Brussels too ),
that seem to be aligned or inspired by Richard Florida’s Creative Class approach of development
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_class
I am also particularly interested in converging such understanding into building up “games” ,
and use such games as a form of synthesis practice to empower “critical networks”
for a intentional information and communication framework,
with incentives and related metrics, empowering collective intelligence and collaborative action.
I am aware such question may open up a large conceptual map, including the ones already layed out by you and p2pf peers.
I am interested in condensing it, into specifics, specific step by step examples.
e-farm may offer an example.
I want to know where and how to focus/aggregate attention as first steps,
and bring it into “real social” ( http://p2pfoundation.net/Real_Social )
“real games”.
For the moment, I consider “Housing Cooperatives” and “Group Purchasing Organizations” as starting points in post-industrial frameworks, as some first aggregator layers, on which to build other relational dynamics around food and housing.
Food production, food logistics, but also food as aggregator, such as http://sharewiki.org/en/Semantic_Kitchen ,
and then alternative currencies and wealth acknowledgment systems supporting more and more complex transaction potentials.
I also like the approach of learning spaces as aggregators for bringing together “Critical Network” requirements and development practices, such as the “University” project promoted by Dougald :
http://dougald.posterous.com/day-27-help-me-start-a-university
Perhaps some of you read ( I did not ) the “integral city” book.
Is there a comprehensive list of requirements set out ?
Also , what are the capital requirements for such kind of “ventures”,
as to converge or purchase infrastructure requirements to enable the functioning of a critical network for a p2p resilient and convivial civilization of collaborative individualists?
In addition to development practices,
I wish to outline all of these requirement into modules,
that help define the costs on a context based approach for
“business plans”, packaged and sold as “use value insurance” …